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To Protect the Waters

Water is separate from the land.

Water has value

Water is property


Ranchers Rights are in the waters

Within National Forests, Public Lands, and State Lands ranchers own surface and livestock water. 


REG. 40. Permits for canals, ditches, flumes, pipe lines, tunnels, dams, tanks, and reservoirs, not granting an easement, are under the jurisdiction of the Secretary of Agriculture, and should be applied for to the supervisor on Form 832 

The granting of such rights of way carries with it a right to use only so much land as may be necessary for the enjoyment of the privilege.

Read for Yourself

Water is Transferable

Other persons must acquire permanent living water before they can turn loose their stock upon such range.

Range Wars were fought over 'acquiring' water. 

one must own the waters

Prior to USFS grazing permits,1905, and BLM leases, 1935

Non-ownership of permanent water kept settler's livestock from using the range.




Fences

An example of a USFS Fence Agreement from 1934

Cooperative Agreement, Reg G-15 (B)

(Government-owned and Constructed Improvements)


5.  If this agreement involves the use of water, no water right is conferred by such use and the water will be left open to all stock entitled to use the range on which it occurs.


If all livestock upon such range can use the waters,

 It infers that the stock upon such range must have the use of a water right






USFS is silent on water issues. They infer through fences

USFS 1905,

"The fencing up of watering places 

for the purpose of controlling adjoining range

 will not be allowed, 

and in fencing pastures

 provision must be made

 to allow free access to water

 by any stock grazing under permit."

Read usfs the use book

Federal Fencing Law on National Forests

 36 CFR § 261.10 - Occupancy and use.

The following are prohibited:

(a) Constructing, placing, or maintaining any kind of ... fence, enclosure, ...on National Forest System lands or facilities without a special-use authorization, contract, or approved operating plan when such authorization is required.




"Public land laws of the United States, referred to in text, are classified generally to this title"

 43 U.S. Code § 1063 - Obstruction of settlement on or transit over public lands

No person, by force, threats, intimidation, or by any fencing or inclosing, or any other unlawful means, shall prevent or obstruct, or shall combine and confederate with others to prevent or obstruct, any person from peaceably entering upon or establishing a settlement or residence on any tract of public land subject to settlement or entry under the public land laws of the United States, or shall prevent or obstruct free passage or transit over or through the public lands: Provided, This section shall not be held to affect the right or title of persons, who have gone upon, improved, or occupied said lands under the land laws of the United States, claiming title thereto, in good faith.

(Feb. 25, 1885, ch. 149, § 3, 23 Stat. 322.) 




Rancher's and USFS Cooperative Agreements to build fence around allotments

Water is the Key

A big clue of ranchers rights is from 

President Theodore Roosevelt's 

Executive orders.


He had ranchers build 

nine-miles of fences 

not around just the spring

around the entire pasture  

TO PROTECT THE WATERS

under NM state water laws.


His executive orders explained 

the power of the waters.

Below a 1906 article 

And Roosevelt's

Fences protect the waters

An executive order to Protect the Water Supply of Fort Bayard

all lying north of the military reservation of Fort Bayard, New Mexico, and within the limits of the Gila National Forest  be further withdrawn from sale or other disposition, subject to private rights (mining) if any there be, for military purposes to protect the water supply of Fort Bayard:  and whenever the use of the land as a National Forest does not interfere with the protection of the water supply of Fort Bayard, such use shall not be interfered with, but the lands shall not be subject to appropriation under any of the public land laws.

Read Executive order signed by Theodore Roosevelt July 23, 1908

USFS takes a position they are not required by State or Federal Law to establish permittee's waters

However, to protect the government's water supply at Ft Bayard, watershed was enclosed with nine-miles of fencing to keep cattle off. USFS cooperative agreements between ranchers and the USFS are simliar to Roosevelt's Executive Orders to protect the waters. 

Read Executive order signed by Theodore Roosevelt May 23, 1907
Tap clippings to link to full pages

USFS owns the fences. ranchers own the waters

Forest Service Manual Range Management FSM 2200

 Permanent Improvements installed or constructed to become a part of the (National Forest) land such as dams, ponds, pipelines, wells, fences


Forest Service Manual Range Improvements FSM 2240.3

Ensure that range improvements facilitate livestock grazing




Water rights are granted

Forest Service Handbook 5509.11

Under the Act of 1866 

Owners of Water Rights

Who use the waters Commercially

Who occupied or used the waters

Are Permanently Granted

Read for yourself

Prior to timber reserves and USFS-1850's

Lands were reserved as mineral lands

This is important. It is upon these lands that water rights will be granted by Congress

 



An 1894 Supreme Court Court Case,

the Northern Pacific RR was granted 80,000 acres to mortgage to build a RR line across the nation. Mining companies objected to the RR wanting to patent the mineral lands. It went to court.. The mining companies won. Mineral lands were absolutely reserved. 

Read Etire Article

1866 Ditch Act

1866 Ditch Act: Mineral Land and Mining 30 USC 51, Public Lands 43 USC 661:

by priority of possession rights to the use of water for agriculture or other purposes have vested and the same are recognized by local customs, laws, and decision of courts they are to be maintained and protected.

A 1955 court case explains the 1866 Ditch Act in more detail :

A few generations ago there were large tracts of western lands in the public domain which were arid or semi-arid, but through which streams flowed. Under the doctrine of riparian rights, water could not be appropriated and conducted distances from the streams, and for that reason there was a great waste of water, and the aridity of lands to which water was physically available but to which it could not legally be conducted, was perpetuated. Congress provided the remedy by separating the title to the land from the right to the control of the water and allowed the states, within which such waters flowed, to regulate them. Acts of Congress of 1866, 1870,

read federal power commission vs state of oregon 1955

Water does not create a possessory right to the land

Walker v US, though a USFS grazing permit is cancelled, stockmen still own the waters

 {30}     Construing the predecessor to Section 19-3-13 narrowly, this Court observed that the New Mexico statute simply required "that all those who seek to stock a range upon the public domain must, before doing so, lawfully possess, or be the lawful owner of, sufficient permanent water on such range for the proper maintenance of such cattle."  Id. at 11, 151 P. at 1016.  Hill thus states that to use the land of the public domain for stock watering, one must have a water right to support those cattle.  However, Hill never implies the converse: that a water right on the public domain used to water cattle creates a land right in that range. " 

 {31}    This Court has never indicated that a person raising cattle pursuant to a license has any separate interest in the public domain, aside from water rights protected by the Mining Act, that can be asserted against the United States government if that license is lost. 

 {34}   Because the Walkers chose not to comply with the government's permitting process, they took the risk of either forfeiting their water right through non-use or being forced to transfer, lease, or sell that right. 

Go to Walker v US, 2007

one may defend their possessory interest of water rights

Diamond Bar vs US, Those who seek to stock a range (apply for a grazing permit) must first own water

 

We are of the opinion, however, that the [New Mexico stat 19-3-13] can be construed as not intending to grant any exclusive right in the use of the public domain, but, on the contrary, as attempting to provide that all those who seek to stock a range upon the public domain must, before doing so, lawfully possess, or be the lawful owner of, sufficient permanent water on such range for the proper maintenance of such cattle. This would be a sound and proper regulation of the use of the public lands which would be defended 

Diamond Bar vs us. 1999

USFS is to follow State water law. 

NM Stat § 72-9-1 (2021)

Nothing contained in this article shall be construed to impair existing vested rights of any waters, in accordance with the laws of the territory of New Mexico, prior to March 19, 1907;

Link to Territorial Law

To protect Ft Bayard's waters the government fenced the pastures of the watershed

Think about that next time you're out checking fences


Ranchers Have Rights 


Roosevelt's executive order to Protect the Water Supply of Fort Bayard

ld"...and whenever the use of the land as a National Forest does not interfere with the protection of the water supply of Fort Bayard, such use shall not be interfered with, but the lands shall not be subject to appropriation under any of the public land laws."

Read Executive order signed by Theodore Roosevelt July 23, 1908
Read Executive order signed by Theodore Roosevelt May 23, 1907

In NM, Roosevelt was publicly saying the waters were off limits.

NM 72-1-6 shall not in any manner extend to persons who travel with a large number of animals; for in that case they shall not use the water of any spring belonging to any individual, without having first obtained the express consent of the owner. 

Read NM 72-1-6

State water Law entitles one to place cattle on the range where water is to be used

Against all others.

In New Mexico, the verbage

Read NM 72-12-1.2 (A)

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